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Our interest in IWA Nurnberg 2009 goes completely in the direction of production equipment, applications, accessories and export possibilities for our products. Of course, there is also a pleasant side to meet colleges and there equipment.

Our core technology is based on armor piercing bullets and some times we get approached by persons, which consider the .45 Hollow point as the Holy Grail of defense ammunition. Even with the wide spreading of body armor?... die-hards don’t care about body armor and shoot in the head!!! I personally don’t doubt about there shooting performances and there possibilities to hit a moving head as a target by low visibility and under stress? but, the Vietnam War is past a long time, and today we have other equipment than in the sixties.  

This is a ballistic helmet shown at IWA 2009. It has a protection shield level IIIA!  This ballistic shield stops multiple impacts of a .45 ACP!!!

This dangerous looking fellow caries a basic level IIIA vest platform with upper-arm and leg protection. The leg protection is provided with a holster for his Glock. With the above level IIIA helmet you could as well throwing rocks to him as shooting hollow point bullets! You can always call for back-up from a Howitzer but I recomend the use our VBR-Belgium armor piercing bullets!!!

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We have a lot of questions to bring our products to the United States market. We have get a lot of information from the United States Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and explosives. Based on there information we will provide a special barrel with some form of land en groves for the barrels provided of our 7.92x24mm 3-P cartridges. This will allow the U.S.A. customers to buy the pistol/shotgun conversion set without extra licenses.

link to our 7.92x24mm 3P cartridges.


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 Bullets for the 7.92x24mm caliber. Minimize

 

We have a sad announcement to do. Hornady has taken the .311 FMJ-RN 71 bullet out production and manufactures only .32 HP (Hollow Point) bullets. In the United States there are only demands for hollow point bullets. We not gone argue that hollow point bullets are more efficient to stop an assailant and that they are more safe for collateral damage, but in the most European countries they are forbidden by law for civilian use. The Hornady bullets are in Europe very difficult to get and now that they don’t make the .32 FMJ-RN 71 bullet, we have to look for other suppliers.

 

Sierra bullets is still one of our reliable suppliers. They have a good distribution net in Europe and are easy to obtain. We still use there .312 FMJ 71 bullet for the 7.92x24mm N cartridge. It is very regrettable that they don’t manufacture a .311 FMJ-RN bullet.

There are other manufactures, which also have .32 FMJ-RN bullets in production, but none of then has bullets for reloading purpose with them. We like also to mention that there are also copper-plated .32 caliber bullets available on the market. We need to do more research on thes bullets.

The only .32 Round Nose bullets that we have found at IWA 2009 are these of the company ARES. They are lead & color casted bullets. These are lead .32 RN bullets with a green plastic coating. According the manufactures data they function well to a velocity of 500 m/sec.(1640 fps). The only disadvantage is the bullet diameter of 7.95 mm ( .313 inch). The lead with the plastic coating is relative soft. Once they are pressed in the 7.92x24 mm cases there diameter reduces to around the .310 inch and they fit in the 7.92x24 mm chamber.


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 Possible candidates for 7.92x24mm S conversion. Minimize
Although most manufacture clam that there pistol doesn’t have a heavy recoil, after a while they admit that there are complains from women concerning the too heavy recoil of there pistols. We have taken the opportunity to investigate which pistol can be easy provided with a 7.92x24 S conversion set. Based on the construction of the magazine, the following pistols can be converted to the 7.92x24 S caliber.

Steyr Mannlicher M-A1

To start with the European manufactures, the M-A1 from Steyr Mannlicher is on of the most solid pistols, which operations system is very similar to the Glock. The M-A1 can be converted to the 7.92x24mm S caliber.

Carl Walther P99

 

The P99 from Carl Walther is also a solid pistol with a safe action trigger. With the P99 pistol the customer can chose out different trigger mechanisms. The P99 can be converted to the 7.92x24mm S caliber.

 Heckler und Koch P30

Although I personally don’t like the SA/DA trigger system of Heckler & Koch and many of there pistols feel uncomfortable the P30 pistol feels the right way. A good grip on the pistol and a smooth SA/DA trigger makes it more acceptable then the other H&K pistols. The magazine can hold the 7.92x24 mm S cartridges well. The P30 can be converted to the 7.92x24 mm S caliber.

Sig Sauer SP-9

 

The Sig Sauer SP 2022 in the 9 mm caliber has an excellent reputation. There is no need to explain how good these pistols are. The 7.92x24mm S cartridge can be perfectly hold in the SP-9 magazine. The SP 2022 in the 9 mm caliber can be converted to the 7.92x24mm S caliber.

Smith & Wesson M&P 9

The Smith & Wesson M&P 9 gets very close with the Glock. The M&P can also be converted to the 7.92x24mm S caliber.

The M&P 9 compact can certainly use a cartridge with a lower recoil. Although most manufactures clam that there compact pistol doesn’t have a heavy recoil, they admit all that there are complains from women concerning the too heavy recoil. The 7.92x24mm caliber is special designed for weaker persons our for weapons which need a low recoil. The Smith & Wesson M&P 9 mm models can be converted to the 7.92x24mm S caliber.

Ruger SR9.

 

The Ruger SR9 feels good and simple. The magazine can hold the 7.92x24mm S cartridges. The SR9 can be converted tot the 7.92x24mm S caliber.


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 The smart pistol prototype form Armatix. Minimize
After the massacre in the German school, once again reality has proven that more safety is needed concerning firearms. With the 7.92x24 mm caliber, we have already started to disconnect the lethality of the bullet form the bullet diameter. Other companies working to improve the safety of the fire arms. The concept of smart guns, which personalize the owner is not new, but it don’t get on the market. One important reason is the American Justice system, which prosecute companies based on there product reliability. If a safety system fails and people die, the manufacture of the system can be prosecute and faces bankruptcy.

At IWA Nurenberg 2009 we discovered a new market for our 7.92x24mm caliber. The smart firearms, which personalize the owner using all electronic systems to identify the shooter. The heavy calibers causing a too heavy recoil, which can damaging the electronic components in the weapon with as consequence a failure of the safety system.

Armatix.

The Armatix smart pistol safety system prototype is made in the .22 LR caliber and uses an emitter, which can be carried as wristwatch and a receiving system with disconnector on the pistol. The engineer Mr. Aberl Hannes has chosen for a large battery capacity to ensure the function of the pistol for 5 years without reloading of the battery. This big battery capacity limits the space for the cartridges. Only thin cartridges can be used. To prevent damaging of the electronic components they prefer the use of low recoil cartridges. These are the typical identities of the 7.92x24mm caliber.

Even with a single stack magazine of only 9 à 10 rounds the 7.92x24mm S caliber can provide with our 7.92x24mm S-3P defense cartridge a serious stopping power. This opens a new market for our low recoil 7.92x24mm caliber.

The basic principle of the safety system is that the owner carries the wristwatch emitter. The receiver build in the pistol identifies the owner and allows the pistol to fire. If the receiver is too fare away form the emitter (owner) the pistol can not fire. (this should have prevented the massacre in Germany). Different functions can be programmed in the wristwatch, like weapon function on / off, functional distance of the emitter to the receiver.

We perfectly understand that by a home jacking or burglary you don’t have the time to open a gun-safe with different keys and we are the first to protect you rights to defend you life, but it should be in the future a standard requirement that only the owner (carrier of the emitter) can fire his pistol. It should be not acceptable that a pistol can be fired without the authorization of the owner by other people like burglars or children.

Future?

Of course, the market prospects where aimed at an international market, but the United States market is too dangerous to start with a smart safety system at a weapon. The risks are to high for lawsuits which can bankrupt the company. The only way to bring a smart safety system on the market is by the European market. The European justice system takes more a count that safety systems can fail and that eventually the shooter pull on the trigger with the objective to kill. A smart safety system must be considered as an extra safety to prevent accidents.  

We recommending Armatic to go on with the project and focus at the European market to launch the smart safety system for weapons. Maybe there will be some failures typical by the launch of a new product, but eventual a smart pistol safety system will prevent o lot of misuse of firearms and a lot of casualties by unauthorized use of firearms.
 

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